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  • #584938
    Balgin
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    • Succubus
    Fox wrote:
    Then perhaps it’s a good thing he doesn’t work at WoTC anymore? 😉

    Really? When did that happen? I just thought his ego was so huge that he could afford to go publishing all his stuff on the side.

    #584939
    Fox
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    • Thri-kreen
    Balgin wrote:
    Fox wrote:
    Then perhaps it’s a good thing he doesn’t work at WoTC anymore? 😉

    Really? When did that happen? I just thought his ego was so huge that he could afford to go publishing all his stuff on the side.

    I was under the impression that with him publishing Ptlolus he went off to forge his own future.

    I could be mistaken. 😛

    #584940
    Hal
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    • Treant

    His next (and alledgedly last) contribution to gaming is for White Wolf, so he is pretty much flipping the V to WotC I think! It has caused some speculation that he knows what is on the horizon and that WotC plan to release 4th Ed and pull the Open Gamin Licence!

    But thats just lips flappin’ 😀

    Hal :hal: (who is at school at the moment)

    #584941
    kafkonia
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    Wow, I’m not the only person who doesn’t care for Mr. Cook’s work! I don’t have the same level of justification, though; I just find that he does very little of interest for me. I like one class out of Arcana Unearthed (the mageblade) but can’t be arsed to rewrite the rest of his system so that I can use it, and after listening to the Banewarrens I have zero interest in Ptolus.

    As for WotC revoking the OGL with 4th Ed — I won’t be heartbroken. In all honesty, I get very little use out of 3rd party d20 books, and in fact I’ve found more success adapting adventures from other systems. Besides, by that point I’ll hopefully have converted my group to another system. I have all these lovely GURPS books sitting on my table… 😉

    #584942
    centauri
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    • Owlbear
    kafkonia wrote:
    As for WotC revoking the OGL with 4th Ed — I won’t be heartbroken.

    What chills me about that thought is that it would mean (wouldn’t it?) Wizards wouldn’t make the System Reference Document available anymore. That’s such a valuable resource, now that so many players are on the Web.

    #584943
    woojitsu
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    • Gelatinous Cube

    I wouldn’t base my assumptions about Ptolus solely on the Banewarrens adventure. There are a ton of locations and NPCs in the book that I am finding very useful in my own Eberron campaign. And if you’re going to hate it simply because Monte wrote it, keep in mind that only about 2 chapters out of the 700 page book are focused on player options. Sure, he recommends that you use his other books with it, but the Ptolus book itself doesn’t really contain anything broken (except perhaps the firearms, but I ignore those).

    #584944
    Fox
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    • Thri-kreen
    centauri wrote:
    kafkonia wrote:
    As for WotC revoking the OGL with 4th Ed — I won’t be heartbroken.

    What chills me about that thought is that it would mean (wouldn’t it?) Wizards wouldn’t make the System Reference Document available anymore. That’s such a valuable resource, now that so many players are on the Web.

    I agree wholeheartedly. I can’t imagine gaming without it as a GM or player. It’s my D&D/D20 equivalent of wikipedia. Because of that I can have most of what I need on my laptop, outside of a few other books.

    I pragmatically refuse to carry a gym bag filled with my D&D library. It’s impractical and it weighs too god damned much. I’d have to use a moving dolly to shuttle it back and forth. There is a reason I pay the $15 a year to the d20srd.org site. It’s critical to my needs.

    #584945
    kafkonia
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    woojitsu wrote:
    I wouldn’t base my assumptions about Ptolus solely on the Banewarrens adventure. There are a ton of locations and NPCs in the book that I am finding very useful in my own Eberron campaign. And if you’re going to hate it simply because Monte wrote it, keep in mind that only about 2 chapters out of the 700 page book are focused on player options. Sure, he recommends that you use his other books with it, but the Ptolus book itself doesn’t really contain anything broken (except perhaps the firearms, but I ignore those).

    Oh, I’m not one to dislike something just because of who wrote it — I recently bought a monster book coauthored by Mr. Cook because the contents looked cool. I’ve just noticed that he and I don’t really click.

    As for Ptolus, I have no interest in shelling out $100+ (or $75+, or even $50+) for a city/setting that I will never use. And it’s not just Ptolus; I’m not going to buy the World’s Largest City, the Wilderlands setting, the Known World boxed set, Castle Zagyg, or anything else along those lines. I’m still not sure what possessed me to buy the City State of the Invincible Overlord. I prefer to sit down and do the creation myself — and since the campaign I’m DMing is on maternity-induced hiatus, I have lots of time to do that.

    #584946
    Balgin
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    centauri wrote:
    kafkonia wrote:
    As for WotC revoking the OGL with 4th Ed — I won’t be heartbroken.

    What chills me about that thought is that it would mean (wouldn’t it?) Wizards wouldn’t make the System Reference Document available anymore. That’s such a valuable resource, now that so many players are on the Web.

    Or you could use a book, a real book, something you can physicaly pick up and hold in your hand!

    You know, something you can actualy take to your gaming session and use as opposed to something you could access from your computer a mere 15 to 20 miles away from all the places that you play! Yeah, that’s one hell of a bus ride back home to do a rules check on something isn’t it?

    #584947
    centauri
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    • Owlbear
    Balgin wrote:
    Or you could use a book, a real book, something you can physicaly pick up and hold in your hand!

    You mean something like my Palm Pilot, which has the SRD files on it?

    Heck, it has a die roller too, and a drawing program. I could play D&D at a moment’s notice.

    #584948
    The_Nalic
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    When i played banewarrens through with Nick (for bradfordians) I really enjoyed the city bit. I played as a LN fighter with a background of being the remnants of a noble house of ptolus that had been mostly wiped out by house vladam. So i spent a lot of time trying to elevate my house to its former position, establishing a residance and so on was good fun. However the dungeon bask was a little less entertaining as the party druid (no names mentioned here to protect the guilty 😉 ) and his pets killed anything before i got into the fight. On reflection fighters are a little dull but it had been an age since i had played one and wanted to see if i could make one with character and interest instead of the 2 dimensional usual fare.

    There came a point though that when house vladam got involved it became the prime motivation for the character to go into the warrens and make sure they didnt get their stinking hands on anything. i mean if we could break into the place as 5 random guys then surely a powerful house with demon mates will probably get in too.

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