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#21 Pencil-Monkey

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 06:56 AM

If Hal ever suggests that you try Call of Cthulhu, check which scenario he's pulling down from his groaning shelves of RPG supplements - if the front cover looks like this, run for the hills

Since many people over the years have had a lot of fun with Beyond the Mountains of Madness it may suggest it was more of an issue with that particular group than with the campaign.

True, and since I've never played it myself, I can only comment on second-hand information based on the recorded RPG sessions and written accounts available on the site(s).

However, since Gilbert specifically states that he doesn't have the patience to sit through long passages of flavor text, he would probably end up bailing from Beyond the Mountain of Madness before the campaign picked up steam.
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Posted 06 December 2011 - 07:57 AM

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I am running Ootak through a savage worlds game based on the "Monster Hunter International" book series which is more combat, good vs evil and fantastic element oriented to have a break from out Traveller campaign which was scifi and where the characters were at best a dark grey morally.

Is that basically Buffy the Vampire Slayer Goes on Holiday, or is it more PokéMon?
And, the main question: Is it being recorded?


Has more similarity with Delta Green. In the universe of this novel there are all sorts of monsters from zombies up through Cthulu-esque outer planes demigods. The main character in the novel, and my player group, join a group of government sanctioned bounty hunters who hunt down things like werewolves and vampires for cash. The government put bounties on the nasties back in Roosevelt's day, but also put a Non Disclosure Agreement on the knowledge of monsters so harsh that you can get shot for telling someone they exists if that person didnt already know. They basically have to hunt down monsters for cash without ever letting anyone know thats what they are doing. Think tonight is session 5, and yes they are being recorded. Still working on uploading our finished Traveller game to the patron queue atm though.
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#23 MorkilRocks

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 08:27 AM

Only problem though is unless Lockhart is as expert at RM as he is at PFRPG, Gilbert'll need to find a new rules-monkey.

I Facetimed Lockhart last night. He held my hand and talked me down from the ledge. He did confess that he would be less of a rules lawyer when it comes to RoleMaster though; however, Locky is and always will be the fourth member of Team Doomed and will more than likely make an audio bomb appearance or two regardless of the campaign.

Since many people over the years have had a lot of fun with Beyond the Mountains of Madness it may suggest it was more of an issue with that particular group than with the campaign.

Both Hal and Lindsay explained about the story-heavy "Mountains of Madness". I have no desire to read a ships manifest for six hours, regardless of the story's quality.

You remember your anal sex diatribe?

No, but clearly you do.

I personally think that Hal could pull off a good Rolemaster campaign for Gilbert and Linsday.

You should have seen the look in Hal's eyes when I said I'd try Rolemaster. It was something between a deer in headlights and a kid peering into the window of FAO Schwartz at Christmas time.

I don't think think the inability to separate player from character is all that unusual for new players.

At this point I don't think it really matters to me. Mor'kil is a tiny bit sluttier than I am, but apart from a half-ass California surfer-boy accent, we is one in the same.

I can easily hear that you're not enjoying it fully.

I was hoping it wasn't that obvious, mais, c'est la guerre. We have actually recorded two small sessions of CC that Hal hasn't released yet. Once you hear them, I think it will be painfully obvious that Broken Moon is on a downward spiral.

Third - I'll miss you...

Oh no you don't. You get your Aussie butt right back over here and follow us down another path mister! We are only taking a hiatus from Carrion Crown. Mor'kil doesn't go down without a fight... or at the very least, a cocktail. :wink:

Thank you all for your feedback. Yes, even you Pencil-Mokey.

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#24 Vaeron

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 09:28 AM

I've heard that Broken Moon is the low point of the series, but only own the first two installments myself. I think Kingmaker spoiled me on how open-ended it was, where there was considerable staging done in Carrion Crown. But I'll still miss listening to you guys making your way through it! :(

Whatever you decide, I'm sure it'll be fun! On the Facebook page David expressed an interest in playing something, and it'd certainly be fun to hear him again. Especially if he got to experience the joys of a badly rolled character this time! In Dualshock's Rolemaster game I played a grotesquely incompetent monk for a session or two.
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Posted 06 December 2011 - 09:33 AM

If Hal ever suggests that you try Call of Cthulhu, check which scenario he's pulling down from his groaning shelves of RPG supplements - if the front cover looks like this, run for the hills


Since many people over the years have had a lot of fun with Beyond the Mountains of Madness it may suggest it was more of an issue with that particular group than with the campaign.


I really enjoyed the audio despite the manifest-checking/sabotage detecting/re-purchasing scenes. If that German special edition in multiple booklets, with a variety of props including flags and clippings all wrapped up in a travel chest, had ever made it to the US I would have bought it in a heartbeat.
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Posted 06 December 2011 - 11:03 AM

Besides, the previous group already wore out all the CoC:BtMoM-jokes, anyway.

No, no they didn't. Not even close ;)
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#27 MorkilRocks

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 11:51 AM

So long as Hal promises never to introduce Gilbert to Darren Stover, it's all good. Plus, I get to draw some new character portraits, so I'm happy as Larry.


A - Who is Darren Stover?
B - Is "happy as Larry" some kind of Danish expression of elation?

It all boils down to how much crunch you want in your fluff. (Crunch is the rules and numbers bit - fluff is the acting and talking to NPCs instead of killing them.


You're wrong. Crunch is a Dark Pokemon move that may cause the opponent to flinch and fluff is what you do to a porn star before they perform. I am well versed in both. :wink:

OK, what kind of character should I play. Hal informs me that there are so many specific variations on each that I can play anything.
Here is what I like:
Spell casting
Causing massive destruction
Bloody killings
Mind effecting spells

Suggestions??

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#28 PaulofCthulhu

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 03:28 PM

True, and since I've never played it myself, I can only comment on second-hand information based on the recorded RPG sessions and written accounts available on the site(s).

However, since Gilbert specifically states that he doesn't have the patience to sit through long passages of flavor text, he would probably end up bailing from Beyond the Mountain of Madness before the campaign picked up steam.


Well at least you'll be saved from having to listen to our group go through the second edition next month. ;)
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Posted 06 December 2011 - 04:04 PM

A - Who is Darren Stover?

Just the best NPC that has ever existed.

And I really do agree that Either David or Glen needs to be included in this enterprise, both would be better.

And if you play CoC:BtMoM is played, don't forget the Boing airplane.
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#30 Ashiruni

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 08:22 PM

Definitely the essence users then, Mr. Gilbert, definitely the essence users. They get the nastiest criticals in the game (provided you have a bit of luck), and are very powerful in destructive magic. They're far less spontaneous than the casters in D&D/Pathfinder, as they take more time to cast most of their spells, but they don't have to prepare everything well in advance.

If you want to focus on something powerful in melee (i.e. lots of bloody killing) there are a few class options, and I'm pretty sure there's a cross-over class (essentially half-fighter type, half caster type) which is suitable for that, but your ability to cast spells is somewhat diminished for it.

EDIT: There are two semi-spell users (the appropriate term) in RMSS (not sure if that's the version that Hal uses, but I think it is). The first is the Monk, which specializes in using martial arts. Hal will be among the first people to tell you that martial arts in RM is one of the most potent fighting abilities it is possible to have. There is also the Dabbler, which pretty much amounts to someone like Tika the Sneaka with spells.

If you decide to go purist, You have the Magician and the Illusionist. The Magician is a generic and well-rounded caster type. Lots of different kinds of spells, lots of choices, etc. The Illusionist is the other essence user class, but, like it's name suggests, it tends to focus less on damage dealing spells and more on warping the perspectives of others.
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 09:01 AM

Hal will be using the Rolemaster 2nd Edition boxed set plus house rules.

I am thinking about going with HIGH fantasy this time so I might house rule with spellcaster casting times so that low level spells are faster to cast then high level ones - if that makes sense :)

I will talk to the existing players about the group makeup and see if they are happy as they are or think they need extra hands.

I am sure Gilbert would love the play with a semi :) (sorry - had to get that out there before someone else did) :)

For pure awesome combination of magic and fighting I would recommend the Warrior Mage class.

For destrctuve magic you are looking at Magician, Sorcerer, Force Mage or something along those lines.

Combining mental control with destructive magic seems to be something that only naughty people do. Like the Maleficent and the Macabre. I will look through the classes later and make a list of potentials with some highs and lows.

I have to say my favourite classes in the game are Thief, Druid and High Warrior Monk. I played all of those a lot and they were all awesome. Actually the High Warrior Monk became a Thief... and a blind one at that...

Of course, I wonder who will take on the Healer role in such an aggressive system :)

Hal :hal:
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 10:56 AM

Besides, the previous group already wore out all the CoC:BtMoM-jokes, anyway.

No, no they didn't. Not even close

Ah yes, I listened at the tweethole when you and the rest of the CoC Knockers were discussing the hardships of CoC-fun the other day. ;)

Is "happy as Larry" some kind of Danish expression of elation?

You could learn what it means if you listened to the Whartson Hall gamers, but since that's not gonna happen, let me Google it for you. :P

Hal will be using the Rolemaster 2nd Edition boxed set plus house rules.

Pencil-Monkey thinks that sounds great, but wonders why the boss has started referring to himself in the 3rd person, and if it might be contagious. :?
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 01:09 PM

You could learn what it means if you listened to the Whartson Hall gamers, but since that's not gonna happen, let me Google it for you. :P


Oh honestly, do you think I have time to randomly Google the various tidbits of flotsam and jetsam you rattle off on the forums? Please...
By the way, did you know that Denmark ranks 16th in the world in terms of GDP (PPP) per capita and ranks 5th in nominal GDP per capita? Fascinating...

Now, STOP HUMPING THINGS!!!

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 01:46 PM

So, based on the above evidence, and despite the thread title promising a new direction for the Fashionistas, it's essentially still you doing bum jokes, yes? :lol:
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#35 MorkilRocks

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 02:00 PM

So, based on the above evidence, and despite the thread title promising a new direction for the Fashionistas, it's essentially still you doing bum jokes, yes? :lol:


Heavens no! I was serious about a new direction. From this point forward I am making nothing but testicle jokes.

So, I guess the ball's in your court.

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 02:03 PM

So, I guess the ball's in your court.

That's just the sort of crack I'm talking about.
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#37 MorkilRocks

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 02:07 PM

That's just the sort of crack I'm talking about.


Oh come on Jack. I mean, come on Jack! Don't be so sensitive in this area.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 08:49 AM

For pure awesome combination of magic and fighting I would recommend the Warrior Mage class.


Concur. The base lists are extremely comprehensive and allow one to pick the flavor from a "fighting caster" to a "fighter who uses magic". Elemental Ways in particular is pretty much All The Awesome And Now With 60% Less Useless Crap. Of course don't forget to designate a couple Closed Essence Lists as Base Lists at character creation...and if you happen to roll juuust right for background options, the only two words you'll ever need are "Plasma Mastery". :twisted:

The only drawback with the W-M (indeed with all the semis) is you will need to choose how you're going to focus. You simply will not have enough development points to keep a balanced progression, and if you try you'll end up with someone who is mediocre (at best!) at everything. A fighting type needs to spend his DPs on body development, weapons, maneuvering in armo(u)r, perception, and may then have points left over for surfing or whatever. A caster needs to spend on directed spells, various Lores, perception, spell list development. Then he may have points left over for electives. A semi gets no more development points and needs to spend them on all of the above, plus one that pure arms or pure essence users don't worry about: Transcend Armour. AND he'll find that his costs for armo(u)r, weapons, and spell lists are higher than a pure user of either flavor. Having said that, warrior-mages are the shizzle, once you level up a bit.

Yeah. I love me some RM.
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 09:03 AM

Only problem though is unless Lockhart is as expert at RM as he is at PFRPG, Gilbert'll need to find a new rules-monkey.


Challenge ACCEPTED!

*sunglasses* Looks like it's time to role. *YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!*
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 09:53 AM

You do realize that, out of everything you typed, I focused on this:

A semi gets no more development...


To which I say:

ONLY IF YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!

That is all.

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