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#1 Jules

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 04:58 AM

This is a thread regarding possible points of crossover between the Alien0 campaign and the upcoming prequel film (or films) named 'Prometheus' by that byzantine master of photogenic horror, Sir Ridley Scott.

For the record, I should point out that a ship within the Alien0 campaign (recorded in 2010) is actually called 'Prometheus', but can assure readers (and especially Ridley Scott's lawyers) that this was entirely accidental, and not the result of industrial espionage etc.

Feel free to post any rumors regarding the film(s) below, and also any discussions regarding the difficulty in re-visiting classic films. (As has probably become clear, the Alien0 audio campaign does not try to emulate the storylines of the existing films, but uses the conceit of deniable black-ops to deal with the issue of first contact.)
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Posted 14 October 2011 - 09:30 AM

First still image (apparently) from Scott's upcoming double-feature:

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Noomi Rapace (out of character) & Sir Scott (still in character):

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 08:03 AM

Nice original score in this video, featuring some Gigeresque sets and portals from 'PROMETHEUS'.



It looks like Scott and Lindhof are going with a story which somehow connects we Earthlings with the xenomorphic entity dear to all our hearts (or body cavities entire) from the original film, presumably via a link in the distant past (e.g. DNA seeding of Earth, or modification of the DNA of certain species here?).

Which would mean - logically - that the entity encountered in 'ALIEN' is effectively some kind of distant relative.

Which would contradict the title, rather a bit.
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Posted 15 October 2011 - 08:16 AM

Ah, now we're getting somewhere.

Some leaked images from a promotional screening, apparently, showing the helmet design apparent in the still image above, and a nice bit of the beautiful, sickly, unsettling lighting design we will recognise from the original film.

Theron looks well NAZI'd up for this gig, and Rapace is managing to look just slightly inhuman already: that slightly blank, tight-skinned look to the face, perhaps.

Cast looks like a scientific group, rather than the space truckers or colonial marines we're familiar with. (As you probably know, my Alien0 campaign is predicated on black-ops agents who are diverted from their drug-related activities by intercepted intel from a rival corporation; which forces their hand, so no crossover there, thank goodness.)


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Posted 16 October 2011 - 04:46 AM

Feel free, by the way, any 'ALIEN' fans who might like to post hopes and fears for the upcoming Scott film(s), or their speculations about plot, or their emotional responses to the shape of the story which seems to be emerging, or their thoughts about late-career Ridley Scott, etc.

(Don't be shy: he'll never read this anyway!)
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Posted 24 October 2011 - 07:43 AM

No visible sign of episode releases for the other threads here, so more 'Prometheus' stuff in the meanwhile.

Some additional stills from the pre-release trailer, with truckloads of xenomorphic eggs and everything:


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Posted 28 October 2011 - 04:54 AM

Oops.

Looks like the news has finally filtered into the bunker:


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Posted 01 November 2011 - 02:45 PM

So, it seems 'Prometheus' will be released in June 2012.

But what are the odds that Hal will release 'Alien0' in its entirety before then?
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Posted 01 November 2011 - 03:14 PM

Oh snap!

I'm sure he's been pretty busy. As long as their is some audio before I finish listening to the almost 36 hours of accordlands in my backlog, it will all be okay.

I am looking forward to listening to these when they are released though =)
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Posted 02 November 2011 - 02:17 AM

Hi M,

Thanks for the posting. (Still, don't you like to break up a long RPG sequences to keep things fresh?)

I've offered Hal to link up the mp3's (all of which he's received) to the adjacent download thread myself (i.e. all I need is the directory path to each file) but just get responses about pending technical changes...

...which will streamline the value-add and maximise shareholder value...

...via economies of scale and genuine customer satisfaction...

...through continual improvement and managerial oversight...

...leading to a brave new world of opportunity and adventure!

*FOGHORN*

To get conspiratorial for a minute here, if the rest of 'Alien0' doesn't appear pretty soon, I'm just going to gratuitously and arbitrarily assume that Scott/Lindhof have gotten wind of activities and are paying Hal danger money to delay publication until after 'Prometheus' comes out, or the world ends on December the eleventh (?) 2012, depending on whichever fizzes out quicker.

(I hope 'Prometheus' doesn't fizz out, mind, but if I have to choose between another late-career Scott fizzer and the end of the world, well...)
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Posted 11 November 2011 - 04:09 AM

Best let the follwing URL speak for itself, really:

http://charlize-cent... ... rometheus/

Interesting stuff about the last few minutes of the film, though; what is the question which no-one has ever asked, I wonder?
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Posted 11 November 2011 - 04:33 AM

Time to get serious about leakage, I think.

I'm calling the following Leak 2, following that fairly grab-asstic script by whatsisname a few years ago where the spacemen roger each other on the Space Jockey plantation.

http://geektyrant.co... ... eaked.html

Yep, it seems to accord with the Greek myth and other archaeological bits, but if we're meant to buy that humans created the xenomorph gene line we see in the Alien films, there'd need to be some backward time travel (which would be a bit grab-asstic, really). Presumably our heros get some message (say, about a derelict which the Space Jockeys accidently mention over shrimp cocktails as they discuss their harder-core ancestors) back to Earth before they die, and it takes years to arrive, by which time WY have their space trucking thing up and going, and it's just a matter of diverting the Nostromo to intercept the derelict on the return leg.

Thoughts?
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Posted 13 November 2011 - 05:19 AM

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 05:22 AM

And here is a gallery from an artist who claims (elsewhere on the same site) that he contributed to the 'human' designs for the upcoming film.

Whatever. This stuff is not bad at all.

http://steve-burg.de...rt.com/gallery/
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Posted 17 November 2011 - 03:55 AM

Looks like the dedicated websites for the film are up and running.

Here's the first I found, which seems pretty damn granular:

http://www.prometheus-movie.com/
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Posted 17 November 2011 - 04:09 AM

Here's the second, and it currently features parts of an interview with Scott which seems to suggest that the Space Jockey might be the Prometheus-analogue, possibly stealing 'fire' from a 'higher' being.

http://www.alienprequelnews.com/

So, the Jockey nicks a bunch of Xenomorphic fire (from someone/thing else) and forever has his liver ripped out for his trouble (or, more literally, has his chest burst open and is left to freeze-dry forever)?

If it is a time travel story (ugh) perhaps the race the Jockey is stealing from were employing the xenomorphs to retroactively destroy their competition throughout time and space, by dispatching a ship with a planet-killing payload of xenomorph eggs into the past if any potentially-problematic, intelligent species appears on their horizon. That would allow the crashed derelict ship from the original 'Alien' to be as old as anyone might like it to be.

But who knows? I never watched that TV show about the plane crash survivors ('Survivor'? or 'The Island'?) that Scott's script-writer worked on, and I hear the plots were fairly twisted affairs...
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Posted 28 November 2011 - 03:07 PM

Interview with Jodow... Jororow... Jorrodow... with that mad, Chilean guy that almost got to make 'Dune' and was in there about the time Scott and Giger bumped into each other.

http://www.dangerous... ... jodorowsky
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Posted 29 November 2011 - 09:22 AM

For the next few hours it may still be possible to see an extremely marginal version of the leaked 'Prometheus' trailer that Fox has been busy taking down from YouTube and such.

http://zedosgang.blo... ... ailer.html

Interesting stuff, although it's already clear that it will be tricky for Scott to distinguish his product from all the films which have followed in the footsteps of the original 'Alien'. 3D alone won't do it.
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 12:07 PM

Cool find, can't wait to see the trailer in HD.
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Posted 03 December 2011 - 07:50 PM

Agreed, PN. That beautiful backlit industrial look is there.

What will be interesting will be to see how the creeping sense of dread and horror works out of that imagery. I think that kind of thing works apart from aesthetics, and is more simple and situational (e.g. a person in an environment which allows a threat to get close to them without being seen).

Making the environment unsettling, and then being professional enough to make beautifully unsettling, can add a certain quality that appeals to the mythic, imaginative sense. But a good example of that imploding in on itself is probably the fourth Alien film (Winona's outing) where the design was betrayed by the snarky comedy and sentimentalism. And that crappy Muppet at the end. What a travesty.

Scott is (though to a lesser degree than his idol Stanley Kubrick) a cool-headed filmmaker. He's in no hurry to charge on up to you and act chummy and drop some jokes to put you at ease. He probably thinks you're entirely too much at ease already, and wants to give you a chance to wise up.

So, it will be interesting to see how he handles the staged revelations of his new story; will all the characters know everything that is going on equally? Will the android again be privileged with secret information? Will one of more characters betray the others?

In a roleplaying situation, I find it's usually tricky (and unfun) to load up a PC with secret information which they must hold back from the others; nicer somehow to give them the chance to all be on the same page (more or less, and according to their individual wishes) and let the NPCs have plot-critical secrets.

Ooh. Spoilers...
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