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#21 smithmeg

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Posted 18 December 2010 - 08:53 PM

another comment that's very late ...

I really like the idea of 2 levels of patronage.

$5 or $10 depending on which you want to pay. (maybe with the suggestion that if you listen to more than 10 sessions a month, you should really consider the $10 option).

You don't get anything extra for the $10, except the knowledge that you are helping keep the site alive. (Though an emailed christmas card could be cool).
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#22 CaptainEnder

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Posted 18 December 2010 - 09:07 PM

another comment that's very late ...

I really like the idea of 2 levels of patronage.

$5 or $10 depending on which you want to pay. (maybe with the suggestion that if you listen to more than 10 sessions a month, you should really consider the $10 option).

You don't get anything extra for the $10, except the knowledge that you are helping keep the site alive. (Though an emailed christmas card could be cool).


Well said, and I agree 100%. I'd be on board for patron contributions higher than $5.
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#23 Lockhart

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Posted 19 December 2010 - 12:26 AM

In theory...Is there anything stopping people signing up another $5 membership anyway? Does that mess paypal up or something?

However, for those who do go the extra mile, maybe a button that says 'Super Patron' or something :P
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#24 Hal

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Posted 17 February 2011 - 07:44 AM

Hey folks,

You may have noticed yesterday that the site was down again. These outages are being caused by the server overloading and needed a restart.

It happens for no real reason when we get hit by a lot of traffic at once.

I have been talking to the host and they are recommending a server upgrade (of course they are) that is going to cost us an additional $50 / month. It will, however, set us up and keep us happy for a long time to come and will hopefully deliver a faster site.

I wanted to poll you guys and see if you could think of any ways to raise a little steady cash to cover the gap. Patrons are always best but I am loath to raise the cost of Patronage as I already know that some people are struggling even to keep up with $5 / month at the moment (damn economy).

I have noticed that the donations in the sidebar are working well again after a little bit of a lag when things got really bad for a lot of people.

Anyway, just looking for some ideas (and comments). What can we do? Should we do it at all? :)

Thanks to everyone who supports the site - you guys are awesome...

Hal :hal:
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#25 Pencil-Monkey

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Posted 17 February 2011 - 09:34 AM

I wanted to poll you guys and see if you could think of any ways to raise a little steady cash to cover the gap.

Hal :hal:

You could consider reviving the RPGmp3.com merchandise, e.g. t-shirts, coffee mugs and similar knickknacks proudly emblazoned with the site logo or other imagery. If you're interested, I could try and put together some drawings that could be used as decorations ("Dungeon On!"). :)

You did specify steady cash; doing another Fundable would be more of a single-shot solution, but it might help to raise extra cash if you're really strapped. If you need extra items to auction off at the El Cheapo $5 level, I'd be more than happy to contribute drawings or similar (notice how the miserly monkey is trying to skirt the issue of donating money of out his own pocket? ;)) You could offer people vouchers that lets them commission drawings of anything they want, like I tried with the Hal's Birthday 2010 Contest. Come to think of it, out of the three vouchers that was awarded exactly zero have been claimed... this might not be such a cash-cow idea after all.;)
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#26 Thing

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Posted 17 February 2011 - 11:50 AM

Come to think of it, out of the three vouchers that was awarded exactly zero have been claimed... this might not be such a cash-cow idea after all.;)


Oh yeah, I totally forgot about those. hmmmmm.......
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#27 Hafwit

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Posted 17 February 2011 - 12:46 PM

Have you considered making the site paying-member only?

Just thinking out loud, I have no idea if it's workable or desirable.
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#28 Daniel

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Posted 17 February 2011 - 12:49 PM

You could consider reviving the RPGmp3.com merchandise, e.g. t-shirts, coffee mugs and similar knickknacks proudly emblazoned with the site logo or other imagery.

This is certainly a funky idea, not a "steady" cashflow, but still. Additionally so if the option for Group-specific merchandise existed to - Official Pantsless Gamers Y-Fronts, anybody? I kid with that example, but the idea remains.

Moving on to more steady forms of cash-flow, I move again that the Contributor groups could play a little each month. I understand the arguments of those against this idea, but in my eyes it remains the best way to cover the growing costs of the site in a way that reduces it's impact on the Listeners. $10 a group, per month, isn't a great deal to ask for the hosting of audio. I dare say the groups themselves would be able to divide that cost between members without much hassle.
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#29 Pheonix

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Posted 17 February 2011 - 01:08 PM

Danny Y fronts "Now you know why I havent been laid in like 2 years"

More seriously, you could charge the contributers 10$ a month for hosting and then try and market rpgmp3.com as a cheap good quality place to host your audios. I would imagine that there is a lot of groups out there that would jump at such a service.

Also you could sell DVD collections of some of the different campaigns on the sight, like the Night below, worlds largest Dungeon etc. PEople might be willing to buy those.
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#30 Daniel

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Posted 17 February 2011 - 01:48 PM

Danny Y fronts "Now you know why I havent been laid in like 2 years"

Hey! I resemble that comment!

Also you could sell DVD collections of some of the different campaigns on the sight, like the Night below, worlds largest Dungeon etc. PEople might be willing to buy those.

Sounds like a good plan, so long as the relative Contributors are willing for such.
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#31 Pencil-Monkey

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 07:25 AM

Also you could sell DVD collections of some of the different campaigns on the sight, like the Night below, worlds largest Dungeon etc. PEople might be willing to buy those.

Sounds like a good plan, so long as the relative Contributors are willing for such.

I believe I still have a complete set of Night Below character portraits lying around that I sent to Hal circa 1 year ago, which he hasn't gotten around to posting yet. [/ahem] ;) You could consider including extra material like that, as well as copies of character sheets, GM notes, photos taken during the sessions, Hal's extensive spreadsheets detailing the Rulemaster campaign in excruciating detail etc., on any DVD compilations, similar to what the Yoggies have done on their special edition albums.
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#32 Salubrai

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 10:06 AM

Have you considered making the site paying-member only?

Just thinking out loud, I have no idea if it's workable or desirable.


Bad idea, IMHO. This isn't a porn site, where a few pictures are enough to hint you in to all the content you MAY get if you pay. If people just hear "live audio roleplaying" without any idea of what they're getting, they definitely would pop in and leave without staying long
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#33 Salubrai

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 10:11 AM

That said, why not an appended audio tag to the front of all sessions released to the public pimping the site, by name and spelled out clearly, while saying "you can get audios months earlier than public" or whatnot.
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#34 Daniel

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 12:24 PM

One idea I've been mentally chucking about recently is an increase in the number of "Member-Only Audio". Such as certain campaigns only being found on the member's area. For the PGers maybe CWR & DA might be available for everybody, but Tropis might be members-only. I'm not suggesting that Tropis is worth paying for (read: it aint), but the example stands regardless.
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#35 eformo

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 05:53 PM

I am of the opinion that creating a greater awareness of what is people are missing by not being patrons might be a good way of encouraging more people to sign on as patrons.

If there was a little block that said "If you were a patron, you'd also have access to [10 sessions from the Strand, 289 more sessions of WotA....]" would probably help push some folk into making the plunge.

The ideal way to fund expanding the hardware is more patrons. But you can't control patron numbers in the same way as the donation/month marker. All that said, I think 5$ is a very happy price point, happy enough that I've signed up.

On a related note, I think the 1 DVD/time plan from Netflix is about 10/month. Netflix used to pump a lot of media into my house through my modem.
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#36 lojer

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 07:09 PM

I know it's a little different of an idea that trends away from the monthly support, but I think you guys should start an annual donation drive.

There's a local radio station (C89.5) that's run by a local high school and now has a national following. In order to cover their costs, they run an annual donation drive where they take requests and ask for donations on air. I think something similar would be great for you guys, but it would take a bit of work.

What I envision is a live stream of a oneshot over ustream or justin.tv. Hal or whomever could host, and Skype in people from other groups. Horrible fake French accents from one country is great, but with fake accents from the US and UK combined, that would be truly golden.

Part of me is selfish and wants to hear it because I know it would be awesome. However, I honestly think you would be able to raise quite a bit of money for the site if properly advertised in advance. Also, I would combine it with the idea of adding an advertisement tag at the start of the site releases, so people that listen are aware of when it would happen.

Then again, maybe I have just been watching too many streams recently.
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#37 Lockhart

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 07:26 PM

I actually have implemented patron drive sound bites after the intro for community releases. They were just implemented from episode 5 onwards.

I am not opposed to the idea of contributors paying extra for hosting.

I would totally be in on playing the live game for fundraising purposes. :P
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#38 Salubrai

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 09:39 PM

Again, though, there needs to be a community option where they're not missing 90% of the audio, or you'll end up with people bailing. Again, I love RPGMP3, but it's an audience which will never be mainstream. At least half of the content, IMHO, needs to go public after a short time. You can't drive interest without content. Most people never even look at the forums, and assume what they get is all they get.
This should be done with a BLEND of audio, not just selected groups, as anyone here can attest: nobody enjoys every audio equally and some groups may turn off potential listeners while others may be exactly what they wanted.

This all said, it's Hal's decision.

Also, audio ads at the beginning and end of ALL audios can be automatically tacked on, I'm sure, so that no matter when someone gets an audio, it always contains the latest ad. There needs to be some kind of tricky trick one can do with M3U's or whatnot.
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#39 Balgin

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Posted 23 February 2011 - 05:47 AM

I'mDo any of the contributors pay per month too?


Yes. I do because I think it's a lovely site that's brought hundreds of hours of enjoyment into my life. And I'm living close to the poverty line (can't remember if I'm barely above it or slightly below).
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#40 PaulofCthulhu

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Posted 23 February 2011 - 07:53 AM

Again, though, there needs to be a community option where they're not missing 90% of the audio, or you'll end up with people bailing. Again, I love RPGMP3, but it's an audience which will never be mainstream. At least half of the content, IMHO, needs to go public after a short time. You can't drive interest without content.


There is a *lot* of publicly available content as well. I suspect an issue is letting people see it more easily. Maybe something like a front page tracker (e.g. posted RRS feeds) of latest content + "All time Greats/Most Popular" & "Specials". Having it front & forward could help.

i.e. as web circles say, the issue isn't content, it's access to content.

Wasn't there talk at one point of a giant Excel spreadsheet of doom that was going to list all the files?
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